yet republicans -- conservatives just can't seem to be able to do what ross perot presentation. and i think men would grab this better because we are visionary but if you would put up some charts and show just that over the last election, because when you're talking verbally, you're throwing out whole bunch of numbers, it's so much more difficult to follow along in your head. that's what i think ross perot was so successful when he ran, because we could see it on the screen. everybody made fun of him -- >> guest: i agree with you i think there was -- i was invited to be here with my charged today. i have them all, by the way. i use a lot of them on the floor but i think it's legitimate criticism. look, it's very flattering to have some say it to you but you have to look at your skill set, where you think your best to go such a look at your age and your health. and i've been through three pretty good bouts with cancer, and i actually would like to spend time with my grandkids and my wife more so in the future. and i think there are going to be far more talented people than me, mo